In this episode, we explore Viktor Frankel’s Man’s Search for Meaning

[1:20] Sarah’s been reading Viktor Frankel’s Man’s Search for Meaning

[3:00] Sarah describes the main question behind Frankel’s book — what happens to the human mind under extremely adverse circumstances like the concentration camps

[5:40] Clay mentions why this book is so often quoted in the life coaching and personal development space

[8:25] Sarah talks about the way Frankel uses his experience of suffering to illuminate a deeper self and an inner freedom

[9:12] Frankel’s description of beauty and art amidst the starkest of starkness

[11:06] Does our society tell us it should be possible to never suffer or experience hardship?

[12:00] Clay talks about military training and what extreme hardship reveals about our character

[14:45] Clay remembers people trying to put money into trees (“vending machines”) during survival training

[16:50] Sarah talks about Frankel’s assessment of the importance of love as transcendent

[23:00] Why Clay thinks everyone should experience being in the military

[24:45] What Viktor Frankel had to say about Dostoyevsky’s greatest fear — “to not be worthy of my sufferings”

[25:50] Frankel’s concept of the last human freedom

[28:50] Clay recalls being cold, wet and hungry in a fox hole

[31:30] Sarah talks about the Buddhist concept of antidotes to a negative mindset

[34:10] Clay asks how to put this mindset into practice

[40:05] Sarah quotes Frankel — “it is often just such an exceptionally difficult external situation which gives man the opportunity to grow beyond himself”

[42:42] Clay quotes Frankel & Nitzsche — “those who have a why can bear with almost any how”

[43:00] Clay reflects on the bigger ‘why’ that he felt in the military

[45:40] Sarah remembers Simon Sinek’s Ted Talk about finding your Why

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